PieFed.caThey Need to Try New Things More Often
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Sunshine (she/her)
https://media.piefed.ca/posts/1r/FB/1rFBRcwf11qR7l3.webp
As seen with Signal Advocacy as well.
I will play devil's advocate, it is not necessarily that people have bad excuses, most of the time it just hard to break from habits. It doesn't help either that in the case of digital privacy, most people don't give a fuck. Tech companies know that people prefer convenience.
The only way I see how people will migrate to more ethical services like Fediverse and Signal is if enough people are convinced to go, that it will start a FOMO sentiment on to each person. That is the real boulder we are rolling up the hill.
Keep posting decent og content in your fediverse comms and signal chats.
90%+ of content on the fediverse is just rehashed reddit/twitter content lol. The remainder is just fediverse specific content like op.
We need more active users who are artists and writers.
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Lemmy and Piefed instances do not have set limits for storage. Someone can upload their digital work in the webp image format to compress their image down to kbs. I don't think any admin is going to be upset towards og artists. Also there could be a cooperative where artists can donate a portion of their income from donations and commissions to help fund their preferred instance's storage costs. This concept already works with Cosocial. it might be necessary for Peertube, Loops and Pixelfed instances to function as cooperatives for creative folks to be viable. The fediverse instances do not have the advantage yet to bulk buy storage space like companies do. The devs are working on embedding third-party services more to work more seamlessly within the frontends and apps. Tesseract automatically compresses images to webp by default.
Videos can be posted from Peertube. The thumbnails can be used creatively there for the image in the lemmy/piefed feeds.
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Reddit content itself Comes from news websites
I post on !football@sopuli.xyz , content is either sports websites articles, gifs of goals or stat infographics
On !android@lemdro.id , content comes from GSMArena, Androidheadlines, Androidpolice etc
Let's not pretend that Reddit has a lot of OG content, it's a link aggregator, links are going to be the same here
These spaces are not welcoming to discourse and different ideas. I don't agree with a lot of what I see here but idgaf about being downvoted or banned. Most of my family and the people I work with would be horrified by Lemmy. I still think we should be exposed to spaces we don't agree with, but don't be surprised when people don't want to be here.
Perhaps your family and coworkers would be more interested in Lemmy instances that are more selective with their federation list.
Just send them cool content and funny memes as links to your instance. So if they want to comment/vote, they must sign up. Once they have, if there is a good app, recommend it.
Has Summit, Mlem, Blerp and Voyager recommendations ready for the occasion.
Finally got my friends on signal, we were originally on Whatsapp, and then one of the several Facebook monitoring scandals happened and they agreed to switch to telegram, we went to signal for a long time after the Russia monitoring thing, and then we tried out telegram again and everyone hated it and wanted to go back. I was very happy lmao
Incredibly satisfying read!
There's no way I'd recommend friends and family to the Fediverse, well, at least not Lemmy (can't speak for the wider services).
Piefed onboarding process asks how much politics the new joiner wants to see : none, a bit, all of it.
That and keyword filters already help make the All feed more appealing
that honestly sounds fantastic
Where is this? I set up my piefed blahaj account and have spent like the past 3 hours blocking communities after setting up filters that should already be blocking those communities.
It is an absolute slog trying to get a feed that isn't all just depressing or toxic shit.
It should be a pop up when you first login to your account
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ?
Also, you can import your settings from your Beehaw accounts to import your blocklist
Mastodon is more approachable.
They trust their corpo bubbles more, pretty sad innit.
The barrier to alternatives is very high, especially when they simply don't understand the risks.
People tend to overcomplicate the thing. Sync for Lemmy was a 1:1 clone of the one for Reddit.
Users can just jump in without any idea of what federation is: https://lemmy.zip/post/47438646?scrollToComments=true
I agree when it comes something doomed like Mastodon, I bounced right off it. Way too annoying to navigate. Understatement, it's genuinely unpleasant to use. Your reward for doing so (at least when I tried last year) is a near ghost town with nothing but American politic whining for content. Even worse community than Bluesky where that can be filtered out somewhat.
I don't think piefed/lemmy takes a galaxy brain to figure out once signed up but yeah even just having multiple choice sign up pages scares people probably. The apps can obfuscate that for their small minds I think long term maybe? I'm also happy to just keep a small community going it's not really a concern for me. Big population just invites more bad actors.
If you don't want to do something, any excuse is the same as the next.
People don't want to face change.
I couldn't get my brother over the new user hump, and he's way more technically inclined that I am in many ways. I build PCs (he doesn't), but he runs things like Tor and Linux, dual boots, etc. He's also more politically left than I am, at least through overall experience (he actively canvased for Bernie and such). He's the reason I even got into politics and learned that I'm a leftist. He hates the same things I do about reddit, so I thought for sure that he would click with Lemmy.
But it sounds like he inadvertently joined one of the bad instances and wound up being defederated pretty early on during the post-migration fiasco. I don't think he fully understood what was going on, and wound up leaving due to the negative experience and perceived censorship. Kind of a bummer. I tried to get him to join a new instance but he didn't want to go through the trouble of setting everything up, I guess.
He was very much in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Usually, bad excuses are just an indicator that someone doesn't care and just wants you to not bother them about it, rather than a "i'm interested but concerned here are my arguments".
If we want more apps, instances and comms we have to try with the outreach. Not everyone who hears about the fediverse is uninterested.
Why would you try to hurt your friends and family?
I... don't really want them here, tbh
I’m sure you would like more leftists around.
Depends in the kind of "Leftist", I suppose.
I could do with fewer tankies, that's for sure.
Edit: lol downvoted by a lemmygrad user. I love when they self-report.
Nah. It's too much of an echo chamber as it is. I want nuance.
Lemmy is toxic as fuck. Decentralization is a good thing, but it doesn't magically fix social media.
Honestly if I remembered what I did to have something to poke at before Lemmy I'd probably just do that. It's a mostly unenjoyable compulsion at this point. The whole thing seems to be just childish bickering and depression bait.
Know how long it took me to stamp out the furry porn and scantily clad little anime girls? I am still hitting block after 2 years. Can you imagine what people would think on first encountering this site?
Uh, depends what instance they start off on?
Why not subscribe to what you are interested in rather than blocking everything you aren't interested in?
friends are a sign of weakness so i rather not have those
$0.02: The "appification" of internet appliances and services (e.g. Phones, tablets, and commercial social media) has shifted user expectations to consumer expectations. People are used to a plug-and-play experience with robust and popular services providing experiences "where all your friends are."
Meanwhile, Fediverse tech is built on top of what we had before: disposable services and vendor-neutral clients. The only app you really need is a browser, and you should be prepared to move around to different service URLs over time. As experiences go, it's almost downright agrarian, in that everything has a season and anything could be destroyed by some disaster and replaced just as quickly. So, it takes a little more effort, which is the exact set of detractors that social media companies capitalized on.
Anyway, this difference between user experiences is always going to be a problem for adoption. It's easy to see it as lazyness, but the reality is one of convenience and how people prefer to spend their time.