PieFed.caMozilla's New CEO: It's Time to Evolve Firefox Into an AI Browser
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Mozilla Firefox is not a privacy browser anymore
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Aaaand that’s me uninstalling Firefox
L3ft_F13ld!LibreWolf will likely be a good replacement.
galoisghostMy biggest problem with these forks is they’re still reliant on Firefox itself.
I feel like we need a clean break.
I hear you and I agree, but for now it’s the best we’ve got.
Hellfire103WebKit (e.g. GNOME Web, vimb, surf) is always there, and Servo is coming on leaps and bounds.
Also, for your consideration, there are:
- w3m (text-based, but supports displaying images with sixel, kitty, or framebuffer)
- Links2 (surprisingly usable)
- Dillo (better engine, but less features)
- NetSurf (better again, but you can’t use a custom search engine and the JS engine doesn’t seem to work)
- Chawan (text-based, but actually supports modern HTML and CSS; can display images using sixel or kitty; also supports gemini[^1])
- Ladybird (bad dev, good product)
- Stargate & Duckling (HTTP to Gemini[^1] proxies, so you can browse the web with Lagrange)
- Pale Moon & Basilisk (based on a fork of Gecko; still use XUL; may be a bit less secure, but disable JS and you might be alright)
Of course Librewolf, Waterfox, Tor Browser, ans Mullvad Browser are doing their best to resist the bullshit.
Seen on Imgur earlier:
Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/zQCk3V2
(But apparently Imgur is using AI in moderation now and users complain about deleted images. So who knows if this will be gone soon.)
robocallBut lemmy taught me a couple years ago to use Firefox instead of chrome and now I don’t know what to use next
rozodruthere’s still plenty of firefox forks you can use that won’t go this ai route or will simply turn it off by default. Librewolf, mullvad, zen, floorp, etc.
if you want to go the chrome route there’s vivaldi although for whatever reason lately it doesn’t save anything when i’m using it on nixos and it’s kind of an ugly bloated mess now.
I use Qutebrowser so I have none of the issues from either.
I can’t stand the massive rage boner Lemmy has with AI. As soon as it’s mentioned you all start frothing at the mouth. Fucking chill.
wizblizzFound the slop enjoyer.
Or maybe I’m just tired of every thread being filled with AI complaints. I’m not taking sides, I’m just tired of the constant complaining.
But if you all want to keep wasting your time and energy bitching about this shit on fucking Lemmy of all places, you do you. I’m sure it’s helping….someone.
I should’ve know better, complaining about complainers never helps. I’ll go back to using Lemmy less and less cause I’m tired of all you miserable twats.
What the fuck does this man think the industry is feeding the data to?
They already were the most trusted software company. So what the fuck do they mean here?
“New CEO”
Did anyone for a fraction of a second expect anything good to follow that part?
How about forking Firefox and make that into an AI browser instead of ruining the good old Firefox?
I’ve been sticking with Firefox through thick and thin. All through the rise of chrome I stuck with Firefox. They sure are making it hard. Think I’m going to have to pull the plug soon.
I’ve always defended mozilla after every dumb mistake, but I’m over it.
They’re pretty much just cooked at this point.
Guess we’re going to have to go with Brave then.
…
Oh wait
Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox strip Firefox clean of AI.
Zen is a feature powerhouse like Vivaldi, without the bloat. LibreWolf is privacy focused and ships with uBlock Origin by default.
Zen is my main browser. LibreWolf at work for stability. Waterfox works on PC and Android, but I only use it on the latter so can’t vouch for its performance on the former.
There are even more Firefox forks, but these are the one’s I use.
I tried to use Zen in my work computer but IT flagged it and made me uninstall it, due to privacy and security concerns. The approved browsers are edge, chrome and vanilla Firefox.
Go figure
If you need to monitor operational processes from within a browser I wouldn’t recommend Zen. If you don’t, damn, that sucks ☹. I hope you can at least install uBlock Origin in vanilla Firefox.
What do you use for android?
Haha Jesus. Seeya!
donate to servo!
fuck this shit!
Well…Waterfox kinda looks good
Christ.
The last few months of tech news alone have me feeling like he ain’t answering his ring doorbell.
Ladybird can’t come soon enough
If Firefox is now considered a bad choice based on what the new CEO said, what do you think of Ladybird’s leader?
https://drewdevault.com/2025/09/24/2025-09-24-Cloudflare-and-fascists.html (relevant section about halfway through)
Ffs why are so many open source developers twats?
Don’t use Ladybird, use Servo (It’s only 0.3, so I would advise waiting).
Thank god for Librewolf.
Which is a fork of Firefox. Librewolf lives and dies by Firefox’s continued development.
Sigh.. another one down. Anyone know good alternatives?
Librefox is a privacy focused fork of Firefox. And if what I use. I’ve also heard good things about waterfox
if you like vim navigation there’s Qutebrowser. I use that as my daily driver and I love it. will never use another browser again.
Personally I’ve heard of 3 other “Foxes”; Waterfox, Ironfox & Librefox. Anyone know the differences between these & the use cases? I’ve been wanting to switch off Firefox to something more privacy-focused and this has given me a good push to do so.
IronFox is a privacy fork for Android, the rest of these are meant for desktop.
Waterfox is privacy-focused but more focused on convenience than Librewolf*.
Librewolf is also privacy-focused but leans further into privacy than Waterfox with the sacrifice of convenience.
Mullvad Browser leans even further into privacy than Librewolf with the sacrifice of convenience. Made by the Tor team and Mullvad.
*I haven’t used Waterfox much but this seems to be the consensus online
Personally, I use Mullvad Browser as a daily driver, and anything that doesn’t work on Mullvad Browser I use Librewolf or hardened Brave for. (Many people don’t like Brave but I like to have a privacy-focused Chromium-based browser for web development)
I have yet to hear an clear argument about why it’s time to evolve into an AI browser or how evolving into an AI browser can improve my day to day life.