PieFed.caUSDA Threatens Stores Giving Discounts to People on Food Stamps
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Just in case anyone was still confused about who was actually responsible for this messā¦let this provide clarity. The point is to make sure people suffer.
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I hope it happens on live TV during one of his ramblings, or that he devolves even farther as another stroke hits him before collapsing and hopefully breaking something on the way down.
I donāt like what monsters like him have made me wish for, but that wonāt stop me from celebrating when they are gone. Iām tired of āturn the other cheekā and āmeet in the middleā complacency and I have been for a while.
Ideally he rolls over Jimmy the Loveseat and Stephen Miller like the fucking boulder in Raiders of the Lost Arc
Whilst loudly voiding his bowels.
Into the mouth of Johnson, who chokes to death on it.
Yeah they never show that part on TV.
This. If the right think celebrations after Charlie Kirk was murdered was bad, I have an entire celebration lined up for Trumpās death
Iām willing to bet this is hurting his own voters more than anyone else.
He doesnāt need them anymore. Theyāve calculated that theyāve dismanteled enough to either rig the election or just permanently postpone it.
And he said as much before and after he got elected.
Republicans can pass their stupid budget without democrats. All they have to do is give up the rule that allows minority power in the senate. They could even try making schumer actually do a fillibuster where he has to stand up and talk for days on end.
Funny enough, the democrats who are rich enough to be in power donāt care more than it looks like theāre caring.
I think itās a prelude to Martial Law
Suddenly theyāre all for equality, huh.
I doubt there is a law against an individual buying a bunch of supermarket coupons and handing them out to SNAP recipients outside the store, but I wouldnāt put it past this administration to find some way to sue that person if someone does that.
Trump Administration: We intended for these people to suffer and starve and, by God, we will see them suffer and starve!
Iām pretty sure that what private businesses want to charge people is totally up to them, unless weāre talking about a protected class. Which food stamp recipients are not.
Afaik, the legal mechanism behind this threat is a pre-existing law that prohibits charging different prices for people paying with SNAP vs other forms of payment. Itās intended to prevent charging them extra, but itās written in such a way that you canāt give discounts either.
Itās bullshit and shouldnāt exist, but itās not entirely new.
Yetā¦ if theyāre unable to pay with SNAP because the funding is cut off, wouldnāt that law be inapplicable?
I would say so, yes. Iām not sure a judge would say this makes sense (judges could even dismiss this based on the fact there doesnāt appear to be an injured party or they could even force the USDA to pay the difference to grocers).
Realistically grocery stores were expecting to sell a certain amount of goods to SNAP recipients and if they donāt then that food just rots. Might as well sell it at reduced cost.
lol imagine telling a private business what to do! Those fucken libruls!
oh waitā¦
Theyāre not aupposed to sell cooked food either, but plenty of places get around that by selling you uncooked food and then cooking it for you free of charge.
Like a pizza at WinCo.
They are trying to cause riotsā¦ because they want to inact martial lawā¦ this is the whole planā¦ best thing to do is keep being peaceful because they donāt understand why people arenāt being violent, because thats exactly what they would be doingā¦
Matter of fact its what they did on Jan 6ā¦
This is my exact read on the matter. We canāt be the only ones to see it this way. What surprises me is that more analysts and pundits *arenāt* talking about the economic violence from this angle. And when the masses finally reach their threshold, the Conservatives will do their āWhaaaat? So much for the tolerant Left.ā
āitās very important that every one quietly starves to death while being beaten by police, or else the government will starve the rest of us and beat them up as well!ā
Being quiet, is not the same as protestingā¦ rioting isnāt going to make things betterā¦
Protesting once every three months is going to do anything. And before you spout the 3.4% read what the people said. It is not a rule just an observation and it is becoming less relevant.
This is a typical abusee mindset.
āI know theyāre abusive but if I donāt do anything to anger them theyāll leave me aloneā
They wonāt. The problem is them, not you.
Peaceful protest is what is meant, instead of violent protest.
Peaceful doesnāt mean doing nothing.
Is it though? So you think that people should start rioting so they will enact martial lawā¦
Vs doing nothing and getting martial law anyway.
Anyone who downvoting is ignoring the fact they are sending the national guard into cities already and trump told troops he would be sending them too āif necessaryā.
Exactly.
This article is linked elsewhere on Lemmy
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-says-ice-hasnt-gone-far-enough-in-its-violent-enforcement-methods/
Yes being peaceful well fight the āevilā why didnāt we think of that during the world wars.
Oh I know, give them Rebates! Corpo scum loves to push rebates on people because many will forget to use them. So give em a taste of the ole rebate loophole. 10% instant rebate for SNAP card holders.
So what law are these stores violating? How are they going to detect and enforce that, if there is in fact a law that exists that actually says this (and again, I donāt believe there is)?
Edit: yeah should have read the article, the answer is in there
Did you read the article?
I dug a little further. The SNAP āEqual Treatment Ruleā is not a standalone statute passed by Congress, itās an agency regulation issued by USDA under its authority to administer the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is codified in federal regulations (7 C.F.R. Part 274). SNAP itself is authorized by the Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 (7 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§āÆ2011ā2036). That law gives USDA broad authority to regulate how benefits are issued and used.
Oh, the regulatory authority of the agency that has no budget? The one that isnāt supposed to be working because the government is shut down? The one that canāt do its job because the Republicans wonāt let it? Thatās the one thatās mysteriously somehow going to enforce its regulations the opposite of how they were intended, to harm the public instead of helping it?
Laws donāt instantly become moot just because there isnāt a police officer standing right in front of you with handcuffs ready to go, and itās not a good idea to normalize having agencies deciding on an ad-hoc basis āweāre just going to let our rules slide this time.ā What if the EPA did that for polluters?
I am in no way supporting this, Iām just pointing out that the problem isnāt as easy or obvious to solve as it seems. They need to change the regulations and thereās a process for that. They should have seen something like this coming and had the regulations account for it to begin with, but they didnāt and now weāre here. Oversights like that happen sometimes.
Itās in the article. Iāll leave the googling of the equal Treatment Rule up to you.
Fair point. I did not read the article before responding, so that is on me.
At the same time, if people are in the program, but are not getting the benefits of the programā¦ are they in the program?
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Free market advocates.
Free market? Itās MINE, MINE, MINE!