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Itâs incredible to me that 4chan can pull the most racist, sexist, and homophobic dregs of our society AND the sweetest, nicest, softest uwu trans folks. Why would the latter want to hang out in a place where the former wants them dead??
Its a type of self harm in my opinion. So the same reasons for other types would apply.
Yeah the contrapoints video where she talks about when she used to be in places like that makes that pretty clear to me. Most trans spaces online have rules about aggressive self hating and especially against encouraging/reinforcing reasons of others in their self hating. 4chan does not, it is a place to wallow in âcleansingâ self hatred.
it kinda feels nice to be called a slur tbh. Live in fear of it IRL but to see people just losing their shit and them not being able to do anything about other than scream it is really nice.
Granted, im talking about toxic vrchat lobbies and not 4chan but I imagine it kinda carries over.
edit: perfect example here, itâs SO FUCKING FUNNY to see the rage in this guyâs head over absolutely nothing
though i doubt this is serious but there are people who actually act like this. I got called a foid yesterday which means I pass enough even the incels canât tell the difference đ
I have no idea what that screenshot is even saying. Which reminds me of the first time someone British called me a âwankerâ and expected it to hurt me, but I just laughed. A word with no meaning to the listener holds no power over them.
I trust youâre interpreting those comments correctly, but if theyâre raging Iâm sure not picking up on it. đ
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I also think that itâs about getting attention, adjacent to what youâre saying, even itâs shitty. Theyâre definitely not invisible in that space.
I quit browsing 4chan in 2008 or so because I realized it was a form of self harm.
Transitioned 4 years later.
letâs be honest, a lot of those softest nicest uwu trans folk on 4chan are also massively racist and transphobic, and it goes beyond self hatred too
they despise and mock anyone whoâs not passing, gender conforming, straight, and white
4chan was created to absorb the worst offenders of Something Awful.
Something Awful.
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not sure, tbh - but I think they keep to separate corners and the freedom to post problematic stuff is probably a major motivation - a /tttt/ or 4tran kind of community isnât welcome in most online trans spaces (whether Lemmy or Reddit) because the mainstream trans culture (at least online) is hostile to the enbyphobia, the toxicity & criticism of trans subcultures, the excessive and unchecked brainworms, the DIY surgeries, etc. that go are common in these communities.
DIY surgery? The only one I can think of being feasible on your own would be an orchi. What are they doin over there?
yes, there was actually a recent case of someone posting about their DIY orchi in a 4tran community on Reddit - I think they were in Europe.
But regardless, the 4tran community seems to talk about and âsupportâ DIY surgery to an extent other trans communities tend to either not or actively suppress, at least from my experiences in online trans communities. Itâs not like the community is delusional about the risks, but there is a respect for people who go through with it, and a tendency within the community to share resources on how to go about DIY surgeries like that.
Iâve also seen trans men express frustration with their situation and inability to go through with a DIY orchi the way trans women would be able to, etc. - again, interactions Iâm not seeing as much elsewhere.
In general, 4chan is more âidâ and these sorts of topics that would be taboo elsewhere are free to find expression.
I mean tbf, respect from me too to those that do DIY surgery. it still seems crazy risky though.
Bottom surgery is so expensive sometimes DIY is the only choice. I think folks that do DIY surgery are heroes. Theyâre showing the government what the consequences are. That the dysphoria is worse than the pain.
O.o I love surgery
Because of freedom. To speak the authentic doubts without censorship or reprecussion.
Maybe they havenât heard of Lemmy yet.
They did and they werenât allowed on here đ
iirc there is actually a 4tran lemmy instance, but itâs not federated with anyone
probably for the better tbh
/tttt/ is incredibly self destructive. Like, Iâm sympathetic to the core emotion that a lot of freshly out trans people are cringe about it, but their cringe is the price of self discovery, of experimentation, and authenticity in a difficult and awkward stage of relearning who you are and who you can be. /tttt/ is a hub of people so fearing being cringe that they forget to live and to learn to be authentic (something I too once struggled with). And in a great irony it too is cringe, while the cringe of unabashed self expression and experimentation contains the seeds of coolness.
In short, Iâm glad theyâre touching grass.
yeah, I donât know who thinks /tttt/ isnât cringe, lol
I tend to think of it more as a kind of black-pill space where people congregate to bond over their shared misery, social alienation, gender dysphoria, etc.
I think their hatred of others is symptomatic of their self-loathing more than anything.
Iâve never been in that particular pit, as I donât experience gender dysphoria in my assigned gender, but I recognise the shape of the pit based on other experiences being hopeless. Giving into oneâs hopelessness can be an odd comfort sometimes. If you believe that this is it for you and it canât ever get better, then youâre protected from the pain of hoping for more. Sometimes you hope for more and you work ridiculously hard to make it happen, but it still doesnât feel enough to make you want to live. The prospect of that is so scary that resigning oneself to misery feels safer.
When I was very low, I resented people who were happier than me (which was most people) because they disrupted the worldview Iâd built where there was no point in trying. Or alternatively, I resented them because I viewed them as being ontologically different to me â people who were born with the capacity to be happy, whereas people like me had no choice to stew in misery.
What sucks is that I did have a choice about a lot of things, but I didnât have a choice about the systemic oppression that pushed me down that pit in the first place. Iâm doing a lot better now, and I donât feel like Iâm in a pit anymore (besides the ultra wide pit of âsuffering under late stage capitalismâ, but at least Iâm in good company). To get to this point, I need to be able to acknowledge that I was both powerless and powerful in my own life. I feel sad whenever I see /tttt/ and other cult-like doomer cultures because I really sympathise.
Tech wonât save us, but we sure could make a great start by, say, submerging 20 carefully chosen server racks in pickle juice.
https://xkcd.com/1439/
Love the pink hair
4chan: take the black pill, you will never get to be an anime girl
reality: is an actual anime girl
Sheâs cute AND a Lain enjoyer. What a W
What does mean tttt? It sounds like a name of one my creature in Spore. Was looking better than sound.
itâs 4chanâs trans community, their board was /lgbt/ and the joke was that there werenât a lot of lesbian, gay, or bi people, it was mostly trans people, so instead of lgbt it was just âtrans, trans, trans and transâ (hence /tttt/ instead of /lgbt/). It started off just as a joke about the over-representation of trans women on the 4chan /lgbt/ board.
see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki//tttt/