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As much as this may well have happened, and is shitty if it did:
For those unaware, using the express as a source is like saying you overheard the news story from a racist loner in a pub
It is true. It also happened like 15 years ago.
So very on brand for the Trump administration.
Surprised they didnāt mention princess Diana in the headline.
And yet Americans drink that shit up. Itās always the express, the sun or daily mail.
Counting on the Americans not to know the difference between a local council and the UK Government, I guess.
Eeh, people from europe fail to understand the distinction between state and federal government in the US all the time - because why should they know, despite the nuance both systems at their heart are aspects of the US government. Broadly the same deal as the distinction between council and central government in the UK (assuming the express isnāt making stuff up again)
Sure, just like how Franceās government is an aspect of the EUās government.
State governments are not aspects of the US government. The US government refers specifically to the federal government. Itās called dual sovereignty or something to that effect. States governments are separate institutions with their own constitutions, and are for the most part independent (or at least were intended to be), although still subject to federal law.
The closest comparison would be like the parliaments of Scotland, Wales, England, Northern Ireland, and the Isle of Man. Technically their own countries (āstatesā), but subject to the agreements of the larger union (the federation or kingdom, depending on which nation).
Local councils in the UK have an equivalent in the US as well. States are generally divided into counties with their own governments, and most cities as well as some towns have their own metropolitan or municipal governments.
Granted, not even most americans, being ignorant, fully understand that there are multiple levels of government with different jurisdictions that theyāre subject to. Thatās why you see idiots fucking up state or local infrastructure when theyāre really mad at the federal government.
To quote wikipedia:
The idea that state governments, or county governments, arenāt aspects of the US government is pretty absurd. They arenāt part of the federal system, sure, but they are part of the government of the united states.
also gonna need a real big citation for this claim:
People might sometimes use it to mean that, but the words themselves refer to the government of the united states, of which state governments are a big part.
ā¦ Honestly, are you american? Because one or the other of us has an excellent point about national identities and their role in understanding the US government, and Iām leaning towards your interpretation right now.
āWithin the countryās federal systemā means, yes, the state governments are federated under one government: the federal government, which is a separate institution.
āAlongside the federal government,ā i.e. āexercising functionsā¦ alongside the federal government.ā Meaning they are separate institutions that operate parallel to each other.
You have that backwards. Read your own wikipedia quote again. State governments are part of the federal system, but not part of the federal government (which is the government of the United States).
USG stands for āUS Governmentā and is an official term often used in international relations and diplomacy to refer specifically to the federal government of the United States. The āUnited Statesā as an entity refers to the federation of states, each of which has its own state government. The terms and conditions of dual sovereignty are defined in the US Constitution, and each state government is chartered by its own constitution which defines how matters of state governance run.
Yes, Iām american, and Iāve worked for the federal government in the past. Federal and state governments are separate organizations. Very little coordination or communication happens between them, even trying to do so would be difficult and only happens rarely, except for highly specified cases where there are typically established liaison staff (such as distributing funding from federal departments to state counterparts, or state and federal personnel cooperating on disaster relief efforts). But for the most part, they donāt even work in the same buildings.
Also, this should be the most telling sign, but federal and state taxes are handled completely separately. Two separate filings for two separate taxes to two separate governments. Because federal and state governments are separate institutions with different functions albeit with overlapping jurisdictions.
Maybe take a deep breath here:
First, Iāve never claimed the federal government and the state governments arenāt distinct groups, hence the quote from wikipedia that expressly outlines that concept. So Iām just going to ignore everything you said in support of that, sinceā¦ I agree.
Second, and please correct me if Iām wrong, it seems like youāre honestly trying to make a case that state governments are not a part of the US government, based on a semantic argument that the specific term āthe US governmentā refers *exclusively* to the US federal government. That seemsā¦ like youāre going to need a whole lot more to support that position if thatās the case. Again, Iāve never argued that they are a part of the federal government, just that they are a part of the governmental system of the united states and thereby the government of the US.
If this is indeed just about the specific language used instead of, say, the concepts in a discussion about people being unfamiliar with a topic thus getting the specifics wrong, then I do not care even slightly enough to keep arguing about this.
Tldr: Long winded way of saying āis he wrong to assume that?ā
American here, I can assure you that the majority of the people around me have absolutely no idea about anything involving the UK government.
In the last month I have overheard two separate conversations in different states, asking if the UK has a āpresidentā, and at least one got the answer āno, they have a queenā.
Iām not even sure most Americans are aware the queen died. Iām not sure how they could possibly have missed it, but our country is collectively under a rock, soā¦
I have heard many people over the years trying to argue US law for things happening in the UK.
I have had to inform a great many people that the UK includes Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Most people have been surprised to find out Ireland isnāt united as a single country.
Americans in general are not smart. Even less informed about anything that happens outside the US than I assume most people in the EU know about the US state Ohio.
Trashy US undersecretary, on trashy Xitter, showing a trashy newspaper, about " white trashā. Really?^^
He was suspended and later resigned. So at least we still have some semblance of consequences for politicians being a twat
āIām sorry but that doesnāt fit the narrative I want to make. Thatās why I just snipped a screenshot of a headline with from an unreliable source with no extra evidence.
Also why I posted āwants to ban xā without the proper context ābecause itās ai keeps making child porn"ā
This person if they were honest
Honestly the US can butt the fuck out of anything to do with other countries at the moment I think
Right, so the fact that the council leader is no longer employed there means the ādiplomatā is advocating the UK ensure a similar fate for twitter? Cool, Iām on board.
Why not boys? Could have been included by writing children for instance. Sexist very much?
Because sexism against boys and men is a-ok. Thanks feminism!
Well, she got a point there. Terf Island aināt got it name for no reason.
I guess I dont have to explain the hypocrisy in her comment (just before it gets misunderstood)